There's no bumping heads, so it's all good Ben! I think where we really differ, is I don't see it as being something hard to achieve, getting into heaven that is. It's rather simple, especially if someone is a good person. It's just a choice of "This guy died on a cross so that none of my sins would be held against me" or "That guy died on a cross for trying to say he was a god." That's why I feel it's so simple, and can wonder how people don't believe that. Sure, there's other stories in the Bible that are much harder to believe and understand, even for many Christians, but when there's historical proof that Jesus existed, it's then just a matter of believing if he was crazy for letting himself be crucified, or if he really had a purpose in it. It's the main reason I believe, outside of my personal experiences that have shaped my beliefs, because one man letting himself have a horrible death for no crime, all so that he could save millions of lives of people he didn't even know and didn't even exist yet... You wouldn't really see anyone do that. We can say we would, but when it comes down to it, most of us would only save another if we knew them or if our death in their place would be quick and easy. That's my reasoning. 